Yes, You CAN WIN On The Punt!

A Great Article by Jon Hudson from Practical Punting.

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Is it really possible to win at punting? It's the perennial question, isn't it, and one that takes on an added dimension in these modern times, where everyone hopes for the monetary break that will enable them to throw off the shackles of the workaday world.


My answer is simple: Yes, you can win at punting. The proviso is this: Be prepared to work harder than you have ever worked in your life to make it happen.

Without intense work-through form study and proper money management -you won't make a dollar from your punting, at least not on a regular basis over an extended period of time.

Every article on winning from a professional stresses the importance of staking and money management.

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I'll talk about the "average punter" first. He's the type of bloke who loves a bet, and gets a kick out of winning, but he's not really serious about it all. He'll get a newspaper with the fields and jockeys listed and try to back winners, without any study of form at all.

In effect, this average punter is playing a form of racing Lotto, giving his spare cash a fling and hoping he'll get a little more back, but shrugging his shoulders in philosophical acceptance when he loses.

In contrast, the bookmaker runs his punting as a business. So do professional punters. They know all about percentages, and what they have to do to get an edge on the next fellow.

The truth is that with careful staking and careful selecting you can make a nice living from betting. You can start with a bank of $100 only, and make a steady $5 a week. But average punters are not content to do this. They are not interested in making $250 profit per year. They want instant, and regular, windfalls. Big, big profits for little or no work.

Yet any punter keen to make a success of his betting must be prepared to scrap this approach-and get deadly serious. Forget all about guesswork, hunches, following jockeys, backing false favourites, betting on the wrong races and listening to the coat-tuggers' tips.

The 10 tenets of wisdom you should follow are these:

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  1. Have a cold and logical mind.
  2. Make sure you have a high regard for FACTS.
  3. Concentrate your mind and have a capacity for remembering small details, especially when studying form.
  4. Get a complete knowledge of betting figures in relation to a horse's true chance in a race.
  5. Have patience to wait for the right races on which to bet.
  6. Refuse to bet on every race and never bet just for the sake of having a bet.
  7. Have the courage of your convictions. This will enable you to bet right at the right time.
  8. Be wise, and never give back all your winnings, and never lose your head in attempting to wildly chase your losses.
  9. Never assume that any one horse has a race at his mercy. If you are going to bet, make sure you study the form of each runner.
  10. Always manage your money properly. Bet in an orderly and consistent manner [with the staking smarts of RewardBet]. Bet within your capacity to lose.
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A professional colleague of mine is one of those punters who has a bet perhaps once a fortnight. He's been doing this for years and years. He makes his living from punting. He tells me he earns around $2000 a week over the year. He bets in $500 and $1000 units for a win or place. He picks his 'spots' very carefully.

How does he do this? He has an office in his Sydney home. There is a computer installed, and this has a form data bank programmed into it. He never bets on country and provincial tracks, preferring to restrict himself to Sydney and Melbourne meetings.

He ignores 2yo and 3yo races and confines his betting to Open Handicaps, Welters and High weights, Weight-for-Age events and the occasional Mares' race.

He explains: "I've got all the time in the world to pick a horse. I wait until everything is in my favour-form, fitness, class, going, track, jockey, barrier ... the lot. When I know they are all in place, that's when I strike.

"I seek profit, not continuous action. I could have a dozen bets a year as long as I end up making a good profit.

As it is, I suppose I rarely exceed 30 to 40 bets a year-less than one a week. My win strike is around the 60 per cent mark, which other people find hard to believe, but it's true.

"Why is this so? Because I work and work on a race. I look at it from every possible angle. I sum up the chances of every horse a dozen times; I look for the nooks and crannies in the form, I check for patterns of form, and sometimes go back years to get a line on what a horse might do.

"Normal punters don't have the time or the facilities to do this. That's how I get an edge on them. I have more information at my disposal, and more time to assess it. "

Let's assume, then, you are a punter with a sizeable bank which you are willing to risk in an effort to become a full-time punter. The first thing you do NOT do is give up your job! You must be prepared to give yourself a trial period to see if you have what it takes to bet professionally.

If that means holding down your day job, and working hard at night on your form study, then so be it. There is more to punting and winning than picking the right horse. You've then got to summon up the courage and faith in your own judgement to back it properly!

Without the security of a weekly wage packet behind you, there is every chance you could go to pieces under pressure. Don't laugh-many have done just that.

I recall a pal of mine who prided himself on his punting fearlessness. He was fearless, too, but he had a well-paid job at the same time to fall back on should things go awry.

Then came the day he decided he was mad to keep working. He resigned and went punting full time. In three months, he had blown his entire bank.

"What went wrong," I asked. He looked disconsolate. "I chickened out," he replied. "When it came to backing the horses I lost all my confidence. Suddenly, it wasn't fun anymore. It was hard work, and frightening work. I just didn't possess the nerve.

"I kept thinking to myself that I couldn't allow myself to lose. I thought of my financial responsibilities; suddenly, my judgement was gone. I couldn't make a selection like I used to. I was betting with frightened money."

This is but one case history. There are thousands more. Only a handful of professional punters survive the test of time, and they are the ones who possess the skill to analyse form, and the courage to bet up big, and not be afraid to lose.

Even if you are not going to try being a total professional, you should get your punting affairs into order. Buy yourself a book in which you can jot down all the bets you make-stake outlaid, horse, type of bet, meeting, date, track conditions, result.

In this way, over a period of time, you'll be able to pinpoint the areas where your betting is falling down. You may be able to isolate and then eliminate those forms of betting which are not pulling in the results for you.

It is also wise to keep a complete record of your bets. Too many punters go through life never knowing how much they lose on their betting activities.

Two things worth noting are as follows:

  1. You should have an annual profit objective. Businessmen set themselves this sort of target. Your objective should take into account your degree of risk and be based on turnover. My advice is to seek a return on your turnover of between five and 15 per cent. This is a realistic objective.
  2. Have a tactical plan. Don't place individual bets in a haphazard manner. Take into account, too, that you are going to run into bad losing streaks. Everyone does. There is a cyclical nature to racing and betting. Winning and losing periods come and go. Most professionals cut back on their bets when they realise they are on a losing streak. When things pick up, as they inevitably do, the professionals increase their bets to take advantage of the good cycle.
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It's most important, I believe, to restrict the number of bets you have. Look at it this way: If you bet eight horses a day at level stakes (say $10 win each), you are going to have to back winners whose odds total eight just to make the smallest of profits.

If you pick one winner only, it's going to have to be at 7-1 to enable you to break square. If there are two winners, they will need to be at 4-1 each just to give you two units ($20) profit.

However, pick one horse and bet $10 and you only need it to win at evens to give you a 100 per cent profit. See what I mean?

Remember, too, that every loser you do not back is equal to a winner at even money. Think of your punting in this way and you will be well on the way to cutting out all those useless bets which you know you shouldn't have bothered about.

If you want to get a lot out of racing, then you'll have to be ready to put plenty into it. You simply have to study and learn all the angles, and you have to treat your betting as a business.

You must learn, too, how to handle money. It's all very well winning with $2 and $5 bets-but what about when you up the ante and start betting in $50 and $100 units? Could you handle the pressure? Will you change your approach to selecting and investing? Where before you were prepared to accept a certain amount of risk, will you now be able to act in the same way knowing that you have big money to lose?

My final tip: Don't rush things. You've got plenty of time to streamline your approach. Test yourself thoroughly and up your stakes slowly. Always bet within your means.

Betting Advice (8 of 8) - Final Advice

This article originally appeared in a series called "Punting Pointers" at this link. We want to share it with our customers as it is very important advice to help you bet better.

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This is the wrap-up of an eight-part series aimed at educating punters to help take their wagering to the next level. Brad Gray sought the insights of five of the most respected industry figures when it comes to punting, form analysis and bookmaking.


We’ve made it to the eighth and final part of the series.

This last segment provides Dom, Robbie, Nathan, Daniel and John with the chance to offer punters any parting wisdom, on any element of punting they see fit.

Remember that the appeal about punting for many is there is no perfect formula, and that you'll never stop learning. For what it’s worth, my two cents is to ultimately, back your own judgement. Then you’ve only got yourself to blame which will drive you to continue to make adjustments to improve your punting game.

 

Dominic Beirne (@domran)
 

My parting advice to new players is that it’s a circular process. You have to pay attention to why you thought something. The most valuable time you can spend is after the race meeting. Watch the races and ask yourself why that horse won at $10 or $50 and look for the explanations.

You have to analyse post-race what went right and what went wrong for different horses. The post-race analysis is more important than pre-race.

There is always something to learn and new data to create and then analyse. Punting is a challenge but a rewarding one.

 

Rob Waterhouse (@RobWaterhouse)


I keep saying that you have to be in the marketplace and the track is the place where you are getting the best value. No doubt betting with the corporate bookmakers, and the deals they have for a short time are also good but you have to be in a marketplace where there is not a large market percentage against you.

Achieving the best odds all of the time is the difference between winning and losing. The shopping is the key to it. If someone had done the long hours of form study the early markets are unsophisticated and there are still mistakes in them. If they intend to back horses to win a few hundred dollars they’ll do well out of it.

 

Nathan Snow (@snowbet)
 

The best piece of advice that has stuck with me is the harder you work the luckier you get. It’s the truest bit of advice I’ve ever been given.

In terms of general parting advice, learning bankroll management is something that doesn’t get touched on much in these.

I’ve seen so many good form students that couldn’t gamble go bust and others who wouldn’t know one end of a horse from the other, who have an innate ability to understand markets and manage their bankroll well, become successful punters.

It’s about reading a marketplace, not just relying on a set of prices. You can be doing a race and two horses are $5 chances. You’re not looking at being too involved and all of a sudden the market is telling you that one of them is really an $11 chance. Then the $5 chance realistically becomes a $3 chance and all of a sudden you are playing. It’s hard to quantify but that’s what separates the best punters.

 

Daniel O’Sullivan (@TRBHorseRacing)
 

The single most important thing is to manage your money well. Done poorly it’ll prevent you from enjoying betting and enjoying any level of success because it’s a roller coaster ride and a long game. Even if you are betting for the enjoyment you'll get a lot more enjoyment from betting if you are sensible in the way you manage your money. The way you make decisions. Your staking. Not chasing losses and all the traditional things.

In my experience, poor habits in that area are the number one thing that holds punters back from achieving whatever goals they have.

It’s not the inability to find the right horses or know the form, it’s poor habits when it comes to money management and staking.

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Beyond that, it’s how you respond to good and bad runs. People think that having four losing bets in a row is a bad run but that’s just common occurrence. I call it managing the process of betting.

The process of looking at the form, deciding your bets, implementing it, having a series of results and you react to that in a certain way and then repeat the process.

To enjoy betting and have any chance of being successful you have got to be able to manage that process well. If you constantly lose the plot or run off the rails in one way or another it’s going to hold you back forever.

I know people who have spent their whole punting lives locked in that cycle where they are going well, they try a new approach they’ve got a couple of winners but strike an inevitable bad run, which we all have, they chop and change too much, run out of money and three months later start betting again.

All of that can be avoided by managing your money, and yourself, better.

The other thing, and it sounds a bit corny, is to just enjoy racing and betting. That should be the first and foremost thing. People go into it thinking they’ll make money out of it even though they might not know a lot of what they are doing.

At a hobby level, they think that they’ll make an income but they lose sight of why they are doing it, which is in the first place to enjoy the sport and the intellectual challenge. To make small steps and make appropriate goals. It’s unrealistic expectations that drive all of those negative habits and behaviours.

If you learn to enjoy betting, the intellectual challenge, the sport, the horses, the big races and the not so big races and use that as a base it helps keep you more level headed and your betting in perspective.

That’s what allows you to keep improving and make slow steps without getting too carried away.

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John Walter (@J_Walter23)
 

The things I’ve learnt in racing have been from the strangest people so don’t be afraid to listen to anyone’s opinion no matter how good or bad a punter you are and put it into practice.

Probably the best thing I ever learnt was that strength was the overall winning factor in races – always trying to find the strongest horses in the truest run races.

That’s why I like sprint races because they are generally run at a truer tempo overall. You won't finish too far away from the action applying that logic.

There are not too many ways to integrate data that people aren’t already doing, and very smart people, so it’s the little funny things you hear and angles that you can suck the most out of to gain an edge in this game.

They are still there but you have to be open to some strange formulas. If you are going to do the same things as everybody else and follow the same formulas like a cookie-cutter you are going to struggle.

You have to look at things from different angles to uncover advantages. Don’t go too big either because it’s impossible to keep up with the workload. You have to cut it down and carve out your own little niche.

A 10 minute brain explosion can put you back three months of work. It hurts the disciplined punters more than the radicals. If you grind away and then lose your path it’s a long way back.

That is what kills people emotionally in the game. You put so much into it and it all just falls over then you have to start again. Keeping that in check is the hardest part.

The best punters are the least emotional, long term. You’ve got to keep it out or at least let go once it’s finished.

Betting Advice (7 of 8) - Sectional Times

This article originally appeared in a series called "Punting Pointers" at this link. We want to share it with our customers as it is very important advice to help you bet better.

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This is part seven of an eight-part series aimed at educating punters to help take their wagering to the next level. Brad Gray sought the insights of five of the most respected industry figures when it comes to punting, form analysis and bookmaking.


Sectionals aren’t new to racing but it’s fair to say they are certainly more mainstream as punting tool simply due to their accessibility through the likes of Punters’ Intel.

Just because they are easier to track down doesn’t mean they are any easier to understand or implement though. Below offers an insight into how our five experts not only use sectionals but their place in the larger form puzzle.

 

Dominic Beirne (@domran)

Sectionals are a very intricate study and extremely important. One of the dangers of sectionals though is the misinterpretation of what is valuable.

We have been doing sectionals since the 80s and it’s become extremely popular more recently hence the value in it is being a little overplayed.

You’ve only got to watch the replay to know that a horse that came from 13th and ran fourth probably ran the fastest sectional. But is that a prospective way of making money over time? Finding the horses that run home to run fourth or fifth all the time?

Punter's Intel is an interactive sectional tool free for download

Punter's Intel is an interactive sectional tool free for download

 

Rob Waterhouse (@RobWaterhouse)

Sectionals are one of those things that everyone I know thinks are wonderful but wish they could master. And I fall into that category.

I’d like to make better use of them but I haven’t been able to find a way. Having said that, I am certainly aware of them, and the horse that runs a big sectional, but actually winning on the punt using sectionals I think is a hard job.

 

Nathan Snow (@snowbet)

They are the new fad. They’ve been around forever though. I used to own a stop watch and clock them off the television. It’s just the technology has changed.

It’s a massive time saver now. They are just a piece of the puzzle. They are an important piece but they are not the be all and end all.

The key with times is they are so fraught with danger when comparing them from different days.

So much can change – the wind, grass length, track moisture, rail position – all sorts of factors. If you are just starting out and you want to look at times I’d start by comparing them on each day.

In terms of comparing times across different meeting at different tracks, it’s something you have to leave to the sophisticated algorithms.

They’ve got banks of data that knows how to compare times properly whereas for anyone starting out, it’s impossible.

When I was starting out I would keep data on each track and that would give me a guide on how they were playing, and the merit in each horse’s run.

(Sectionals) confirm what you are seeing most of the time. After watching so many races it’s like you’ve got a clock in your head sometimes, but you need that confirmation.

In particularly I look for the 600 to 400m sprint and how that relates to their overall 600 to the finishing split because most horses have got a sprint for 200-300m, maybe 400m at best, so any horse that is doing excess work from the 400 to the 600m is a penalising factor. Especially if it is around a bend which they generally are.

How the sectional breakdown is displayed on Punters' Intel application.

How the sectional breakdown is displayed on Punters' Intel application.

 

Daniel O’Sullivan (@TRBHorseRacing)

The first thing I would say is that I never look at raw sectionals. Over 15 years I’ve established systems to rate times and sectionals so they can be compared across tracks, distances, provincial to city.

There is no one key thing I look at it. It’s more about understanding what each horse has done in the context that it was presented with.

For example, horses that run in slow run races are never going to run fast time so it is pointless looking at the overall times and trying to assess that but with the right tools and techniques you can identify top class performances.

The same can be applied in reverse where horses might run a fast time but it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a strong race. Horses can run a fast last 200m or 600m split but it needs to be interpreted in the context how fast they went early. It’s a multifaceted type of approach.

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John Walter (@J_Walter23)

They are a checking tool for mine. Looking at the vision, trying to work out what happened in a race and then checking sectionals.

When a few different sectionals are put together – say they go quickly early, stack up and then go quickly again late as opposed to quick all the way through, the overall time paints some sort of picture but not the overall picture.

Those sort of things are still underplayed. The anchor drops are hugely advantageous to a video watcher because that sort of makeup to a race really hinders a lot of horses and helps others and they are unlikely to go into that kind of race at their next start.

Some sectionals paint a truer picture than an overall time. If they match the vision or not, there is an advantage either way so sectionals are huge to give you the truth as to what really happened.

The last 200m is probably the most important. Even the last 100m and the last 50m if you can get it.

That’d be the most important sectional in reviewing meetings as strength through the line is really important to me, but overall I don’t pay too much attention to one particular sectional. It’s more as an overall.

Time to the 600m and then the last 600m to see what they have done paints a really quick picture of tempo.

Then if you want to interrogate them further because you have seen something else they are always good to have there but I don’t use any particular sectional religiously.